Predestination #15-D

January 20, 2022

Good morning brothers and sisters,

This morning’s word in the vocabulary of salvation is a source of contention among some.  We often refer to it as the P-word, not even daring to bring it up to those we know do not agree with this doctrine.  In fact we have been accused on more than one occasion of being 5-point Calvinists; and it was indeed an accusation as if it were a dirty word!  We do not count ourselves under the banner of any mainstream religion.  We are children of the Living God who believe that God is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent in the extreme.  He knows all, He is everywhere at once, and He is all powerful.  He controls the life of man and gives life everlasting to those whom He will.  To suggest anything less is to take from HIS glory.  If God does not know all then He is no god at all. 

I see Spurgeon quoted on Facebook by those whom I know to not believe in this doctrine; in fact we have had discussions about it together and their stand is staunch.  So let’s now look at what Spurgeon had to say on this topic in a sermon he entitled GLORIOUS PREDESTINATION on March 24, 1872 (These are only excerpts from his quite lengthy sermon)

Here stands the case. Man was originally made in the image of God, but by sin he has defaced that privilege, and now we who are born into this world are fashioned, not in the heavenly image of God, but in the earthy image of the fallen Adam. “We have borne,” says the apostle, in the first epistle to the Corinthians, “the image of the earthy.” The Lord, in boundless grace, has resolved that a company, whom no man can number, called here, “many brethren,” shall be restored to His image in the particular form in which His eternal Son displays it. To this end Jesus Christ came into the world and bore our image, that we, through His grace, might bear His image; He became a partaker of our infirmities and sicknesses that we might be partakers of the divine nature in all its excellence and purity. Therefore, the one thing to which the Lord is working us through His Spirit, both by providence and by grace, is the likeness of the Lord from heaven; He is evermore transforming the chosen— removing that defilement of sin, and molding them after the perfect model of His Son, Jesus Christ, the second Adam, who is the First-Born among the “many brethren.”                                                                                 

Now, observe that PREDESTINATION IS THE IMPELLING FORCE TOWARDS THIS CONFORMITY. This truth of God divides itself thus—it is the will of God that conforms us to Christ’s image rather than our own will. It is our will now, but it was God’s will when it was not our will, and it only became according to our will when we were converted, because God’s grace had made us willing in the day of its power. We cannot be made like Christ unwillingly—a consenting will is essential to the likeness of Christ! Unwilling obedience would be disobedience. Naturally we never will towards good without God, but God works in us to will and to do; God treats us as men responsible and intelligent, and not as stone or metal; He made us free agents, and He treats us as such. We are willing now to be conformed to the image of Jesus. Yes, we are more than willing—we are anxious and desirous for it! But still the main and first motive power lay not in our will, but in His will, and today the immutable force which is best to be depended upon does not lie in our fickle, feeble will, but in the unchanging and omnipotent will of God; the force that is conforming us to Christ is the will of God in predestination                                                                                                                                                 And now Noah Webster’s definition: PREDESTINA’TION, noun The act of decreeing or foreordaining events; the decree of God by which he hath, from eternity, unchangeably appointed or determined whatever comes to pass. It is used particularly in theology to denote the preordination of men to everlasting happiness or misery. Predestination is a part of the unchangeable plan of the divine government; or in other words, the unchangeable purpose of an unchangeable God.

There are only four times in the Scriptures where the word predestinate/predestinated occur but there is a recuring theme in the Bible for those who God did foreknow, elect, chose, appoint, and ordain to eternal life.  The Scripture passage Spurgeon used if found in Romans chapter 8.  This chapter is held close by all believing Christians to be their hope in this world; it is a source of comfort to those who are not subject to condemnation anymore but “walk in the Spirit” even though some would toss out the word “predestinate”. 

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

These words of Paul speak of our not only of our predestination but also of our preservation in Him.  Paul seems to search the known universe for things that could possibly come between us and our loving Father, but he concludes by saying absolutely nothing “shall be able to separate us” for God the Father who chose us to be “called, justified, and finally glorified” when we shall see Him in Heaven.

Consider this passage also:   1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins

We did not decide in our own capacity to love God.  We were “dead in trespasses and sins” (Ephesians 2:1b), unable to choose what was right or save ourselves.  “Herein is love” herein is His love for us long before we were even a passing thought.  There’s a song David sings “When He Was On The Cross”  with the verse that describes God’s love for us as His only begotten Son died for us:

Though His eyes were on the crowd that day;

He looked ahead in time;

For when He was on the cross;

I was on His mind!

Thank you Father for loving us that much!  How else can we even call you God if not for your Glorious Predestination!

Take my word for nothing, go to the Source and read it for yourself.  And as always to our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ be all the glory forever.

~Terrie~

Can I lose My Salvation?

December 21, 2021

Good morning!

I have heard many debates on this issue; one side just as adamant as the other on the subject. Just as quickly as the question is asked the answer is quickly given in an “absolutely!” or an “absolutely not!” It amazes me how one book can lead to so many different opinions.

Imagine being a child and your family standing depends on your behavior. If you are good today, you can stay; but if you misbehave tomorrow, you have to leave. The love of your parents is then conditional. As a child you would be a neurotic mess; teetering on a tightrope where one misstep would be fatal.
Unfortunately, there are some Christians today who are walking that tightrope, in near despair because they fear losing their salvation, and being kicked out of the family of God.

If you have been born again, you are part of God’s family regardless of your behavior. But, by the same token if you are truly born again, it will show in your behavior. If you belong to Christ, you are part of the family of God and can enjoy the emotional security our Heavenly Father wants us to experience.

Jesus said in John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me, and I give unto them eternal life; 28 And they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
Believing that one can lose one’s salvation is like saying that Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was inadequate; that all His suffering and His dying was not enough to provide eternal security. On the cross, Christ said in John 19:30 It is finished. These words mean that our sin account was paid in full. He paid the full price. If you truly have accepted the gift of salvation, you are fully forgiven – for sins past, present and future sins. There is a difference between having a relationship and true fellowship with God. Relationship is established by birth, and fellowship is established by life. A Christian out of fellowship may be chastened, but he cannot lose his relationship established by the new birth. Jesus wrote that in blood on the cross.

Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Notice that Paul places our works in 2 categories; ones that are nonflammable and those that readily burn. Our works on earth will be tried and what things are good and pleasing to God (gold, silver, precious stone), will stand and only be purified by God’s refining fire, but those that are of not edifying to ourselves or the kingdom (wood, hay, stubble), will be burned and we will suffer some sort of loss but we will still be saved. However, any form of loss when it comes to the kingdom is a dear loss indeed!

This is not a blanket grace that can be thrown over a multitude of sin; but it is knowing that if we INADVERTENTLY sin we can come to God with a repentant heart and receive fellowship again.
1 John 5: 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

So how do you know that you know? If you believe on the name of Jesus you are as good as there! You cannot then go out and willfully commit sin without suffering loss, but your salvation will be secure in Jesus.

The Apostle John wrote of our Advocate in 1 John 2 beginning in verse 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

In the middle of these verses there is an “if”. If we keep his commandments. Jesus summarized the commandments when asked by a Sadducee which was the greatest commandment. Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Paul gives us a second witness to this in Romans 13 beginning in verse 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Jesus is our Advocate in the times when we do not follow Him as we should; we all need Him in this role as our Advocate!

Noah Webster defines advocate as: “One who defends, vindicates, or espouses a cause, by argument; one who is friendly to; as, an advocate for peace, or for the oppressed.” We would call Him our lawyer today. He stands for us when we are accused by the evil one; pleading His own blood as our covering. For a detailed look at the word propitiation, visit our page The Vocabulary of Salvation on our WordPress site http://www.bloggingfortheglory2 it is number 4 in the list.

If you are not sure of your salvation and that Jesus died for you, ask Him into your heart today, turn from your sin, and trust Him for the rest. If you need someone to pray with you, please leave your contact information with us and we will get back to you soon.

Take my word for nothing; go to the Source and read it for yourself. And as always to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be all the Glory forever.